I have no comment on this issue as it really doesn't immediately concern me other than ecumenical interest. Therefore, I will only post the report. But the denial of a decision is not a no answer so again, the best advice that I have received is wait and when Rome decides the world will know.Biretta tip David Virtue
VATICAN: Anglican Rumors Denied
by Tom McFeely
January 29, 2009
A Vatican source has denied rumors that Rome has decided to create a personal prelature for members of the Traditional Anglican Communion.
Leaders of the Traditional Anglican Communion, an international group of disaffected Anglicans that claims to have more than 400,000 members, have been in discussions with Rome since late 2007 about entering the Church as a corporate body.
The group broke with the Anglican hierarchy in 1990 because of objections to the ordination of women and other heterodox actions undertaken by some of the churches that belong to the Anglican Communion.
According to the reports circulating on the Internet, the Traditional Anglican Communion would be allowed to form a personal prelature modeled on the structure utilized by Opus Dei, to accommodate the clergy and lay members of the group.
A personal prelature is a canonical structure that was proposed by the Second Vatican Council decree Presbyterorum Ordinis. The document states that "special personal dioceses or prelatures" should be establi shed when necessary outside of the Church's existing structures to deal with "particular pastoral works as are necessary in any region or nation anywhere on earth" (no. 10).
Pope John Paul II created the first personal prelature for Opus Dei in 1982.
But Rome has not reached a decision to create a similar personal prelature for the Traditional Anglican Communion, according to an official at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who spoke today with Register correspondent Edward Pentin.
Said the official, "It's something that has appeared on the blogosphere and then been reiterated, but the truth is nothing's been decided."
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'I have no comment on this issue as it really doesn't immediately concern me other than ecumenical interest. Therefore, I will only post the report. But the denial of a decision is not a no answer so again, the best advice that I have received is wait and when Rome decides the world will know.'
Funny. Rather a dramatic contrast from all the fluttering in the dove-cotes over the merest rumours earlier.
'When Rome decides the world will know.'
So much for all the claims about 'universal' Catholicism. Note the immediate and (I believe) profoundly undignified 'slide' between Catholicism in the true sense and Catholicism in its narrow (oh, so narrow) sectarian sense.
'The Vatican announced the Rev. Gerhard Maria Wagner, 54, had been chosen as auxiliary bishop in Linz, the capital of Upper Austria province.
Wagner caused a stir in 2005 when he was quoted as saying he was convinced that the death and destruction of Hurricane Katrina was "divine retribution" for tolerance of homosexuals and laid-back sexual attitudes in New Orleans.
In 2005, a Catholic news agency in Austria released excerpts of comments Wagner made in a parish newsletter in Linz about Katrina.
It quoted Wagner as saying that Katrina destroyed not only nightclubs and brothels in New Orleans, but also abortion clinics.
"The conditions of immorality in this city are indescribable," Wagner was quoted as saying.
The row came as controversy continued surrounding the rehabilitation of Bishop Richard Williamson who said the Nazis did not use gas chambers and killed "only" 300,000 Jews rather than six million
Hans Padinger, spokesman for the Upper Austrian priest's council, said yesterday he was "not very pleased" with the pick because it gave him the general impression the Vatican made no attempt to communicate with the Linz Diocese about the matter.
Upper Austrian priest and church dean Franz Wild said he was "appalled" by the decision and that he found it astonishing that someone with such extreme positions could be appointed to a post that was meant to unify.
"I hope it's clear to the church that we're living in the 21st century and that it also has to live there," the newspaper quoted Wild as saying on its web site.
Franz Guetlbauer, head of a Catholic men's movement, described the appointment as a "extremely conservative sign." The organisation "We are Church" predicted that the appointment would push people to leave the church.
The Upper Austria Governor Josef Puehringer also weighed in, describing Wagner as a "very conservative cleric" and telling broadcaster ORF that the pick suggests the Vatican does not have a realistic picture of the diocese.'
The present Pope is becoming a serious embarrassment not only to RCs but also to Christians everywhere. Are there no limits to his arrogance and conceit?
Well, there is no limit to his Catholic orthodoxy, to be sure, and he is dealing with heretics and revisionists as they ought to be dealt with.
Now if only for some excommunications, starting with Hans Kung.
William Tighe
What on earth did you expect? Nobody can take the TAC seriously, given its dubious origins, leader, and the cat's cradle of canonical problems he and other divorced and remarried people belonging to the sect enjoy. For heaven's sake, he is an apostate Catholic priest who left to get married, then divorced, and is now 're-married'. That's only the beginning. As for clerical members in the United Kingdom, the majority are semi-literate and have had little, or no, theological education and nobody goes to their improvised conventicles. St Agatha's, Landport, is used more for concerts than services and, even then, it's three quarters empty, if that, and looks like a junk shop. And their 'church', sorry, shed, in Lechworth is an episcope vagantes 'cathedral', borrowed for occasional services taken by a lunatic. Their orders are also not Anglican but drawn from dubious sources. Dream on.
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